Government

Analects 11.26

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子路曾皙冉有公西华侍坐子曰以吾一日长乎尔毋吾以也居则曰不吾知也如或知尔则何以哉

子路率尔而对曰千乘之国摄乎大国之间加之以师旅因之以饥馑由也为之比及三年可使有勇且知方也夫子哂之

求尔何如对曰方六七十如五六十求也为之比及三年可使足民如其礼乐以俟君子

赤尔何如对曰非曰能之愿学焉宗庙之事如会同端章甫愿为小相焉

点尔何如鼓瑟希铿尔舍瑟而作对曰异乎三子者之撰子曰何伤乎亦各言其志也曰漠春者春服既成冠者五六人童子六七人浴乎沂风乎舞雩咏而归夫子喟然叹曰吾与点也

三子者出曾皙后曾皙曰夫三子者之言何如子曰一亦各言其志也已矣曰呋子何哂由也曰为国以礼其言不让是故哂之唯求则非邦也与安见方六七十如五六十而非邦也者唯赤则非邦也与宗庙会同非诸侯而何赤也为之小孰能为之大

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Zilu, Zengxi, Ran Qiu, and Zihua were seated in attendance. The Master said to them, “Because I am older than any of you, no one is willing to employ me. Yet you, too, often complain, ‘No one appreciates me.’ Well, if someone were to appreciate you, what would you do?”

Zilu spoke up immediately. “If I were given charge of a state of a thousand chariots—even one hemmed in between powerful states, suffering from armed invasions and afflicted by famine—before three years were up I could infuse its people with courage and a sense of what is right.”

The Master smiled at him.

He then turned to Ran Qiu. “You, Ran Qiu!” he said, “What would you do?”

Ran Qiu answered, “If I were given charge of a state sixty or seventy—or even fifty or sixty—square li in area, before three years were up I could see that the people would have all that they needed. As for instructing its people in ritual practice and music, this is a task that would have to await the arrival of a gentleman.”

The Master then turned to Zihua. “You, Zihua! What would you do?”

Zihua answered, “I am not saying that I would actually be able to do it, but my wish, at least, would be to learn it. I would like to serve as a minor functionary—properly clad in ceremonial cap and gown—in ceremonies at the ancestral temple, or at diplomatic gatherings.”

The Master then turned to Zengxi. “You, Zengxi! What would you do?”

Zengxi stopped strumming his zither, and as the last notes faded away he set the instrument aside and rose to his feet. “I would choose to do something quite different from any of the other three.”

“What harm is there in that?” the Master said. “We are all just talking about our aspirations.”

Zengxi then said, “In the third month of Spring, once the Spring garments have been completed, I should like to assemble a company of five or six young men and six or seven boys to go bathe in the Yi River and enjoy the breeze upon the Rain Dance Altar, and then return singing to the Master’s house.”

The Master sighed deeply, saying, “I am with Zengxi!”

The other three disciples left, but Master Zeng stayed behind. He asked, “What did you think of what the other disciples said?”

“Each of them was simply talking about their aspirations.”

“Then why, Master, did you smile at Zilu?”

“One governs a state by means of ritual. His words failed to express the proper sense of deference, and that is why I smiled at him.”

“Was Ran Qiu, then, not concerned with statecraft?”

“Since when did something sixty or seventy—even fifty or sixty—square li in area not constitute a state?”

“Was Zihua, then, not concerned with statecraft?”

“If ancestral temples and diplomatic gatherings are not the business of the feudal lords, what then are they? If Zihua’s aspiration is a minor one, then what would be considered a major one?”

Confucius, & Slingerland, E. (2003). Analects: With selections from traditional commentaries. Hackett Publishing.

Zilu, Zeng Xi, Ran You, and Gongxi Hua were seated with the Master. He said, I’m a few days older than you, but forget that for the moment. You are always complaining that no one understands you. If someone truly understood you, how would you proceed?

Zilu quickly spoke up in answer: Suppose there is a state of a thousand chariots, hemmed in by larger states. In addition, it’s at war and thus there’s a famine. If I were in charge, in three years’ time I could teach the people courage and make them understand how to go about things.

The Master laughed at this and then asked Ran You how he would proceed.

He replied, An area sixty or seventy square li, or just fifty or sixty li—if I were in charge, in three years’ time I could make sure that the people had enough of what they needed. As for rites and music, I’d have to wait for the help of a gentleman.

And Chi (Gongxi Zihua), how about you?

I’m not saying that I could do it, he replied, but I’d like to study the procedure. In the ancestral temple, or when there is a diplomatic meeting or gathering of the rulers, I’d like to put on a ceremonial robe and cap and assist in a small way.

What about you, Dian (Zeng Xi)?

Dian ceased strumming on the large zither and, as the last notes died away, set the instrument aside and stood up. My tastes are different from those of these three men, he replied.

What harm in that? said the Master. Each person has simply to speak of his desires.

In the late spring, said Zeng Xi, when work on the spring clothes is finished, I’d like to go with five or six older fellows who have been capped and six or seven young boys to bathe in the Yi River, take the air among the altars where they pray for rain, and come home singing.

The Master gave a deep sigh and exclaimed, I’m with Dian!

When the others had left, Zeng Xi lagged behind. Master, he said, what did you think of what those three said?

The Master said, Each was just speaking of his desires, that’s all.

Why did you laugh at Zilu’s words?

The Master said, A state is governed through ritual, and his words lacked modesty. That’s why I laughed. And as for what Ran You said, he too was talking about governing a domain, wasn’t he? How can an area of sixty or seventy square li, or just fifty or sixty li, be seen as anything but a domain? And Gongxi Hua—he, too, was talking about governing a domain, wasn’t he? Ceremonies in an ancestral temple or diplomatic meetings—these are carried out by feudal rulers, are they not? If Gongxi Hua is merely to “assist in a small way,” I don’t know who that leaves to do the big assisting.

Confucius, & Watson, B. (2007). The Analects of Confucius. Columbia University Press.

Analects 11.24

Original Text:

季子然问仲由冉求可谓大臣与子曰吾以子为异之问曾由与求之问所谓大臣者以道事君不可则止今由与求也可谓具臣矣曰然则从之者与子曰弑父与君亦不从也

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Ji Ziran asked, “Could Zilu and Ran Qiu be considered great ministers?”

The Master replied, “I thought you were going to ask about some exceptional individuals, but instead you always ask about Zilu and Ran Qiu! What we call ‘great ministers’ are those who seek to serve their lord by means of the Way, and who resign if unable to do so. Now, Zilu and Ran Qiu are what we might call ‘useful ministers’ .”

“Then are they the type who do what they are told?”

“If it came to murdering their father or their lord, surely even they would not obey.”

Confucius, & Slingerland, E. (2003). Analects: With selections from traditional commentaries. Hackett Publishing.

Ji Ziran asked whether Zhongyou (Zilu) and Ran Qiu were fit to be called great ministers.

The Master said, I thought that you were going to ask a quite different question, but now you ask about Zhongyou and Ran Qiu. The term “great minister” applies to someone who serves the ruler according to the Way. If he cannot do that, he retires. As for You and Qiu, they can best be called stop-gap ministers.

So you mean they would do whatever they were told to do? asked Ji Ziran.

The Master said, If it involved killing a father or a ruler, they would never go along.

Confucius, & Watson, B. (2007). The Analects of Confucius. Columbia University Press.

Analects 11.2

Original Text:

子曰从我于陈蔡者皆不及门也

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The Master said, “None of those who followed me in Chen and Cai managed to attain official position there.”

Confucius, & Slingerland, E. (2003). Analects: With selections from traditional commentaries. Hackett Publishing.

The Master said, Of those who followed me in Chen and Cai, none succeeded in gaining official position.

[Or, according to another interpretation of the last phrase:] none come to my gate anymore, [because they are all dead or scattered].

[Or:] none come to my gate anymore, [because they have forgotten me].

Confucius, & Watson, B. (2007). The Analects of Confucius. Columbia University Press.

Analects 10.4

Original Text:

入公门鞠躬如也如不容立不中门行不履阈过位色勃如也足躩如也其言似不足者摄齐升堂鞠躬如也屏气似不息者出降一等逞颜色怡怡如也没阶趋进翼如也复其位踧踖如也

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When entering the gate of his Duke, he would draw himself in, as if the gate were not large enough to admit him.

He would not come to a halt at the center of the doorway and when walking would not tread upon the threshold.

When passing by his appointed place, his countenance would become alert and serious, he would hasten his steps, his words falling to a whisper as if he could barely get them out.

When he ascended to the Duke’s dais with the hem of his gown gathered in his hands, he would draw himself in, slowing his breath to the point that it seemed as if he were not breathing at all. Upon leaving the Duke’s dais, his expression would relax as he descended the top stair, and he would seem at ease. On reaching the bottom of the stairs, he would hasten forward smoothly, as though gliding upon wings. When returning to his own place, he would resume his attitude of cautious respect.

Confucius, & Slingerland, E. (2003). Analects: With selections from traditional commentaries. Hackett Publishing.

When he entered the ruler’s gate, he bent forward, as though the gate were not big enough to admit him. He never stood in the middle of the gateway or stepped on the threshold.

When he passed the place customarily occupied by the ruler, his face took on a look of concentration and his pace was solemn. When he spoke, he seemed to have trouble getting out his words.

When he gathered up his robe and ascended the hall, his body was bent forward and his breathing stilled, as though he were unable to breathe. When he emerged from the audience and descended the first step, he relaxed his expression with a look of relief. When he had come to the bottom of the steps, he hurried forward in a dignified manner and returned to his original position with a reverent air.

Confucius, & Watson, B. (2007). The Analects of Confucius. Columbia University Press.

Analects 10.2

Original Text:

朝与下大夫言侃侃如也与上大夫言訚訚如也君在踧踖如也与与如也

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At court, when speaking with officers of lower rank, he was pleasant and affable; when speaking with officers of upper rank, he was formal and proper. When his lord was present, he combined an attitude of cautious respect with graceful ease.

Confucius, & Slingerland, E. (2003). Analects: With selections from traditional commentaries. Hackett Publishing.

At the morning audience, he talked with the lesser officials in a relaxed and affable way, and talked with the higher officials in a respectful manner. When the ruler made his appearance, Confucius assumed a reverential attitude, but one free of constraint.

Confucius, & Watson, B. (2007). The Analects of Confucius. Columbia University Press.

Analects 8.20

Original Text:

舜有臣五人而天下治武王曰予有乱臣十人孔子曰才难不其然乎唐虞之际于斯为盛有妇人焉九人而已三分天下有其二以服事殷周之德其可谓至德也已矣

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Shun had five ministers and the world was well governed.

King Wu said, “I have ten ministers in charge of establishing order.”

The Master commented, “It is said that talent is difficult to find—is it not the case? Virtue flourished as never before after the reigns of Yao and Shun, and yet [even among King Wu’s ten ministers] there was a woman included, so he really only had nine good men.”

“Two-thirds of the world had already turned to [King Wen], and yet he still continued to defer to and serve the Shang. The Virtue of the Zhou—surely it can be said to represent ultimate Virtue?”

Confucius, & Slingerland, E. (2003). Analects: With selections from traditional commentaries. Hackett Publishing.

Shun had five ministers, and the empire was well governed. King Wu said, I have ten capable ministers.

Confucius said, Talent is hard to find—true, is it not? In the time of Tang and Yu, talent flourished, [yet Shun had only five ministers. As for King Wu’s ten ministers,] one was a woman, so he had only nine men. Zhou already possessed two-thirds of the empire, yet it continued to serve the Yin dynasty. The virtue of the Zhou may be termed the highest virtue.

Confucius, & Watson, B. (2007). The Analects of Confucius. Columbia University Press.

Analects 8.14

Original Text:

子曰不在其位不谋其政

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The Master said, “Do not discuss matters of government policy that do not fall within the scope of your official duties.”

Confucius, & Slingerland, E. (2003). Analects: With selections from traditional commentaries. Hackett Publishing.

The Master said, If one does not hold the position, one does not dictate the policies that go with it.

Confucius, & Watson, B. (2007). The Analects of Confucius. Columbia University Press.

Analects 6.14

Original Text:

子游为武城宰子曰女得人焉尔乎曰有澹台灭明者行不由径非公事未尝至于偃之室也

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Ziyou was serving as steward of Wucheng.

The Master asked him, “Have you managed to find any worthy people there?”

Ziyou answered, “There is one named Tantai Mieming. He does not take shortcuts when conducting business, and I have never seen him in my chamber except upon official business.”

Confucius, & Slingerland, E. (2003). Analects: With selections from traditional commentaries. Hackett Publishing.

Ziyou was made steward of Wucheng. The Master said, Have you come upon any good men?

Ziyou said, There’s Tantai Mieming. He doesn’t take any shortcuts, and he never comes to my room unless it is on official business.

Confucius, & Watson, B. (2007). The Analects of Confucius. Columbia University Press.

Analects 6.9

Original Text:

季氏使闵子骞为费宰闵子骞曰善为我辞焉如有复我者则吾必在汶上矣

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The Ji Family offered Min Ziqian the position of steward of the Ji Family fortress at Bi.

Min Ziqian said [to the messenger bringing this news], “Please courteously decline the offer for me. If they ask for me again, you can find me beyond the banks of the Wen River.”

Confucius, & Slingerland, E. (2003). Analects: With selections from traditional commentaries. Hackett Publishing.

he Ji family wanted to appoint Min Ziqian as steward of Bi. Min Ziqian said, Can someone kindly refuse this offer for me? If they continue to press me, I will have to retire to the banks of the Wen River.

Confucius, & Watson, B. (2007). The Analects of Confucius. Columbia University Press.

Analects 6.8

Original Text:

季康子问仲由可使从政也与子曰由也果于从政乎何有曰赐也可使从政也与曰赐也达于从政乎何有曰求也可使从政也与曰求也艺于从政乎何有

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Ji Kangzi asked, “Could Zilu be employed to carry out official business?”

The Master replied, “Zilu is resolute. What difficulty would he have carrying out official business?”

“What about Zigong?”

“Zigong is perceptive. What difficulty would he have carrying out official business?”

“What about Ran Qiu?”

“Ran Qiu is a master of the arts. What difficulty would he have carrying out official business?”

Confucius, & Slingerland, E. (2003). Analects: With selections from traditional commentaries. Hackett Publishing.

Ji Kangzi asked, Would Zhongyou (Zilu) be suitable to hold government office?

The Master said, Zhongyou is decisive. Why wouldn’t he do for government office?

Would Si (Zigong) do for government office?

The Master said, Si is knowledgeable. Why wouldn’t he do for government office?

Would Qiu (Ran Qiu) do for government office?

The Master said, Qiu is talented. Why wouldn’t he do for government office?

Confucius, & Watson, B. (2007). The Analects of Confucius. Columbia University Press.